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JRSCCivic98 · 11-12-2007, 01:17 PM

Damn, I guess it's in the VZNav software itself. If you go to service books and take a peek at the WAP one and its HTR info you'll see a different IP and ports then all the other service books. I think this is the same type of info that GPS needs in terms of "PDE IP and Ports".... I think... I could be wrong though.

Mortgage_It · 11-12-2007, 01:29 PM

A Verizon employee told me today that VZNav will use the internal gps chip and not cell towers (once it is officially released)

vermifax · 11-12-2007, 01:39 PM

Of course we all know how reliable vzw employees are

RemyJ · 11-12-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JRSCCivic98

Damn, I guess it's in the VZNav software itself. If you go to service books and take a peek at the WAP one and its HTR info you'll see a different IP and ports then all the other service books. I think this is the same type of info that GPS needs in terms of "PDE IP and Ports".... I think... I could be wrong though.

What are they? I can test them.

Firefishe2 · 11-12-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortgage_It

A Verizon employee told me today that VZNav will use the internal gps chip and not cell towers (once it is officially released)

Verizon needs to educate their customer service representatives about how GPS actually works.

I don't understand why VZ Navigator would use only the internal GPS and not both the Assisted (A-GPS) as well as the internal GPS for what is called S-GPS, short for Simultaneous GPS reception.

S-GPS is faster, more reliable than only using the 8830's internal GPS, and is really what A-GPS is about if one want to implement GPS Location Based Services correctly on a cell phone network--any network!

To only use the A-GPS may be fine for their BREW phones with no internal gps chips, but the 8830 benefits from being able to implement S-GPS services, using both methods of location getting.

To me, anything else is just a waste of code.

Warm regards,
Firefishe

Firefishe2 · 11-12-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cadon69

I see where can I get the other one you are speaking of. Thank you in advance

-Don

**Edit** I found it sorry for asking. It works perfect got my exact location!

Urrmm. . . How about some links to all these things?

JRSCCivic98 · 11-12-2007, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RemyJ

What are they? I can test them.

I said "same type of info", not the same info. There's a difference. The IP and ports for the WAP service isn't going to tell you anything. That being said, the IPs I have for all the regular provisioning are actually RIM assigned IPs according to a whois lookup. The one for the WAP service book is a VZW assigned IP according to a whois lookup.

stevenmz · 11-12-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kusellout69

I downloaded and installed (on Windows) the Telus .176 release, and when I synched my BB, it didn't prompt me for updating. Am I missing something?

don't forget to delete the 'vendor.xml' file. Do a file search in windows. It will be the only file with that name. Delete it and then try to sync again. VZ doesn't
like other vendor software on their phones. Hope that helps.

John Clark · 11-12-2007, 06:26 PM

Deleting the vendor.xml is required for any BB OS upgrade that's not from the same carrier as the bb being upgraded. It's not specific to VZ.

Dawg · 11-12-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stevenmz

don't forget to delete the 'vendor.xml' file. Do a file search in windows. It will be the only file with that name. Delete it and then try to sync again. VZ doesn't
like other vendor software on their phones. Hope that helps.

you have to delete the vendor file on all BBs not just a vzw when you install others OS

stevenmz · 11-12-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by John Clark

Deleting the vendor.xml is required for any BB OS upgrade that's not from the same carrier as the bb being upgraded. It's not specific to VZ.

Roger that!

stevenmz · 11-12-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawg

you have to delete the vendor file on all BBs not just a vzw when you install others OS

Roger that that!

dwp1975 · 11-12-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JRSCCivic98

Anyone that has VZNav on their .176 8830 working, please go into your service books and see if you have anything about VZNav or GPS listed. If you do, go in it and get the HRT info off of it... namely the IP and ports associated with the gateway. Thanks.

I looked and didn't see anything about VZNav or GPS in my service book. So far, after having it for a day, it's not half bad, this morning when I was using the "follow me map" it errored out everytime my pinpointed location moved off the screen, but when I would press "ok" it would correct itself and show my location again.

JRSCCivic98 · 11-12-2007, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dwp1975

I looked and didn't see anything about VZNav or GPS in my service book. So far, after having it for a day, it's not half bad, this morning when I was using the "follow me map" it errored out everytime my pinpointed location moved off the screen, but when I would press "ok" it would correct itself and show my location again.

And this is why I argue that it would be good to have enabled autonomous GPS back on the phone. That way I can use whatever app works BEST for me, not have a "half-ass" working app shoved at me for a charge.

Oh yeah, and WTH is with this site and its constant Database Errors? Are you guys running on VZW code or something? HAHAHAHAHA!

Unclebelvis · 11-13-2007, 10:36 AM

I actually am liking VZNavigator relatively well. It's not TomTom or TeleNav, but it's pretty good considering it's the only choice we have. Mine seems to be pretty accurate as well. It's probably about as accurate as TeleNav has been for me.

knipknup · 11-13-2007, 11:09 AM

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8830/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)

Anyone with the vz 8130 pearl notice the memory leak related to vznav? Is it only seen on the 8830?

mzman · 11-13-2007, 11:31 AM

See below. Here I have a great signal, but no sky or windows. Location information is available, but poor. Usually it claims accuracy to within 50 ft. Now it says 0.1 mi.

I have no explanation for that, other than it's using GPS satellites.

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Originally Posted by mzman

I can probably do that tomorrow. I expect to be in a building with signal boosters. I will be under ground and will have a great signal, but no GPS visibility surely. If I get an accurate fix, that means it's using cell towers. If it's not accurate, then it's using GPS too. Sound right?

For what it's worth, my house is in a so-so reception area. When I go outside, I get an accurate fix. Indoors sometimes I get nothing at all (GPS error). For that reason, I suspect it is trying to use the GPS satellites.

This could be why some are having trouble in downtown New York: can't see the satellites, have to rely on cell towers.

Thoughts?

kusellout69 · 11-13-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by stevenmz

don't forget to delete the 'vendor.xml' file. Do a file search in windows. It will be the only file with that name. Delete it and then try to sync again. VZ doesn't
like other vendor software on their phones. Hope that helps.

Sorry forgot to mention that I did delete vendor.xml

ofelas · 11-13-2007, 06:49 PM

After vendor.xml is deleted, is it possible to use the VZW theme with the Telus .176 desktop OS or is one forced to use the Telus and/or Zen theme?
If so, how does one select the VZW theme after installing the Telus .176 software?
Thx.

mzman · 11-13-2007, 06:58 PM

Was working. Now I get a timeout error. Anyon e else?

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