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I see Lebanon is now exploring this issue too.
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08-05-2010, 07:38 AM
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Do we see a pattern on the countries asking for this?
Catherine, data is not stored on RIM's servers, it just transits through them.
I don't trust any government that demands to snoop on my communication in the name of 'national security'.
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08-05-2010, 08:07 AM
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Message From RIM Chief: Monitoring Would Kill Web
RIM Chief Fires Back Over Data Demands - WSJ.com
Love it...
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Everything on the Internet is encrypted. This is not a BlackBerry-only issue. If they can't deal with the Internet, they should shut it off.
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08-05-2010, 09:55 AM
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Supporting a point I suggested above. Read at least the first sentence . . .
http://mobileactive.org/blackberry-messenger-ban
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08-05-2010, 10:19 AM
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It's becoming clear to me that it's BBM they are afraid of. And read pro-ban comments on websites and you'll understand why.
Little ol' BBM.
Go big BBM!
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08-05-2010, 10:22 AM
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That's what I'm thinking, too. I'm sure they have ways to track email, RIM or no RIM, as well as text messages, thru the local carriers and ISPs and such.
But since BBM is PIN to PIN, it's totally in RIM's playground. Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.
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08-05-2010, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CanuckBB
Do we see a pattern on the countries asking for this?
Catherine, data is not stored on RIM's servers, it just transits through them.
I don't trust any government that demands to snoop on my communication in the name of 'national security'.
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Snooping is only the half of it, I believe.
I think the other half is controlling the information being received by the population.
As I say, I don't think BIS or BES per se is the worry for them, it's the fact that BBM has caught fire with young people, and they are able to receive information from sources outside of the control of the regime, and very easily, very efficiently, pass that information on to others.
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08-05-2010, 12:58 PM
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Love this one too:
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Although Mr. Lazaridis said RIM wouldn't compromise the security of its products, he acknowledged the company would have to cooperate with authorities if handed a court order to do a lawful intercept of a person's communications.
"I would give them the encrypted stream," he said. "It would have to be like a wiretap."
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But without the encription key...
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08-05-2010, 04:42 PM
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08-06-2010, 01:34 AM
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HAHAHAHA good one!
It's really uncalled for to ban Blackberry service just over the inability to snoop. Isn't that one of the many reasons people buy Blackberries for in the first place? SECURITY! At least that's why I bought mine...
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08-06-2010, 06:48 AM
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Let look at what all this is really saying: The iPhones and Droids are not secure devices.
I wonder how many of the countries doing this will have the same leadership 5years from now?
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08-06-2010, 09:37 AM
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lol! at least their people won't suffer of Blackberry Thumb pain... hehe!
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I like one of the comments to ^ article:
"After reading this article, Blackberry phones suddenly became 100% more appealing."
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08-06-2010, 01:53 PM
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India is wasting its time chasing BlackBerry - Page2 - Telecom - News - Tech - The Times of India
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the US National Security Agency reportedly has the technology to crack encrypted mail in a few hours - with or without help from RIM.
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08-09-2010, 05:10 PM
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Eh, can I spy on them?
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Ok, what's up with all of these countries suddenly being freaked out by BlackBerry devices? Now Germany has entered the mix.
German Ministers To Stop Using iPhones, Blackberrys - International Business Times
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08-10-2010, 07:31 AM
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This part is common in all these stories:
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Though BlackBerry smartphones offered a high level of data security, Germany is not content with the services as all the data passes through RIM centers in Britain and Canada, the report said.
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Reading the latest news on the issue with Saudi Arabia, you'd think this was The Issue, and The Solution is to put servers in the country. And now the regulators are happy. At any rate, it's clear RIM has done what Saudi Arabia wanted.
Could that be what German government officials are worried about? The confidentiality of the communications with interests inside Saudi Arabia via blackberry now? And not just Saudi Arabia, but the other countries to follow.
It gets curiousor and curiousor.
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